November 23, 2020

Ep 6 – How knowing the basics will help to speed up your learning progress with Dunna Did It

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Ep 6 - How knowing the basics will help to speed up your learning progress with Dunna Did It

Hey Wicked Hunters, what is going on?

What an amazing interview with the man himself Dunna Did It.

In this podcast, I wanted to hear how he mesh his passion for music, videography and photography into one and how he found the time to learn it all! He shared one of the most important ways to speed up your progress. Make sure you watch or listen to the podcast as he shared how his passion turns into a career as one of the leading YouTuber in a short 4 years.


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Dunna Did It  0:00  
You will look at it and go, Oh, I know how they did that.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  0:03  
Hey wicked hunters Welcome to the Art of Photography podcast where we share our passion. And we share how our passion gives us hope, purpose and happiness to photography.

So today we have someone very, very excited.

I’m very excited to introduce this person. See, I can’t even speak properly. And he’s, he’s celebrating. I think celebrity hasn’t made it to the Oscar. Yeah, I’m pretty sure you’ll make it there very soon. But he’s Yeah, I’m sure a lot of you have seen him before. If not, you will get to know Him. And you can check him up. But Donna, how are you doing?

Dunna Did It  0:53  
I’m doing well, man. Thanks for having me on.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  0:56  
Yeah, man. It’s great. I mean, like we met like, last year in in Lake Louise. And remember you were looking for the PD clip defeat.

Dunna Did It  1:09  
Yeah, I lost my Peak Design clip. And I lost the last a strap to while I was there, I lost all sorts of Peak Design stuff while I was there. I don’t know.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  1:19  
Yeah, that’s crazy. I’m glad that we keep in touch. Because, you know, when I started this podcast, I was like that I was straightaway thinking about like, you know, like us, like, man, like, what is he doing? What is he up to? And and you just you just had on your recent birthday, you reach a big milestone there. So you want to tell us a little bit about that? I mean,

Dunna Did It  1:43  
what the birthday? Yeah, the birthday I got I got verified, I think on YouTube is what they call it, where you get the little checkmark beside your name. But yeah, sometime a couple a handful of months before that has to be six months now or something like that. I crossed over 100,000 subscribers on YouTube, which is, it’s very exciting to think that there’s enough people to fill a couple of stadiums that, that like to watch my stuff, which is pretty nuts.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  2:12  
And that’s amazing, isn’t it? I mean, how did it all started? Like how did this all like sparks and, you know,

Dunna Did It  2:21  
I mean, honestly, like I’m a my full time job is I’m a music producer, I have a recording studio here in Edmonton, I make music basically, and I record for people and, and mix and master their music and that kind of stuff. And I think that that all that started because obviously I love music, I love being creative, that kind of thing. But then you you do that for so many years and answering the clients and, and you I kind of needed something else to be my creative outlet outside of that not not that I wasn’t like having fun or anything at work, but it was always like, at the end of the day after I had made music that somebody else asked me to make for eight hours, the last thing I wanted to do was make more music. And so then my creative outlet kind of felt like it had been not taken away from me but like it was being used for something else it was being used for work and so I started to really get into photography and videography and that kind of stuff and and was really fascinated by the world of like YouTube vlogging so I started the channel, as a vlog channel I started it with just did the intention to just kind of show off what what I got up to every day and I kind of kept the studio out of it a little bit which is a weird thing to say to show off what I do every day but keep my full time job out of it but but you know when whenever my wife and I would go on little little trips and stuff like that I would make videos or if we went to Ikea and bought a new couch, I would make a video and like that kind of stuff. And eventually I wanted to I wanted to increase the quality of the production and I started like I was always learning and that kind of thing. And so you start learning about cameras you start learning more about I mean I already knew a lot about audio at that point but audio specifically for video and editing and those kinds of things and started to learn about that stuff and get really obsessed with not not only the videography side of it, but because we so many people are hybrid shooters and so many cameras are dedicated hybrid cameras where you can shoot both video and photo I started to get really into the photography side as well. And so I ended up I started talking about that on the channel like I think kind of unintentionally at first I started babbling about laying you know I got a new camera or I got a new lens like hopefully the the video should look better now. And you know, I’m excited about this new software that I’m trying or something like that. And then eventually it was like now here’s the deal. Toriel on this software, and here’s a review on this lens. And it just kind of blossomed from there when I started to see people really enjoying that content, and I think the way that the way that first of all, I was someone who was learning so they could, they could connect with that. But second of all, I think the way that I put it forward is, is somewhere in between being really technical, and being really like approachable and easy to understand. So it’s like, it’s good for people who want a little bit more than just the very basic thing, but it’s not so so extreme that it’s going over their head. So I kind of fit right in that middle space there. And I think that when I found out that I kind of had that skill for teaching in that way, I really kind of laid into that. And I really enjoy it as well. And I enjoyed the the feedback that I get from people and yeah, yeah, so that’s, that’s kind of the story of the channel. That’s, that’s

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  5:57  
amazing. So you started in music? Wow. Okay, so, yeah, I mean, like, I could totally relate, like, you know, it’s really hard sometimes, especially when you


when you work for when you work with something that you’re passionate about. Sometimes you really need to differentiate, you know, between the hobby side, and then the work side. And I, you know, like, it’s still a really, really hard distinction for me myself, how do you actually differentiate that like, between, you know, because like, you had that burnout in the music, right? So how did you not like, you know, have that again, how do you prevent that? Yeah, it’s,

Dunna Did It  6:42  
I mean, it’s, it’s something that I constantly have to kind of keep in check. And I mean, with, with music, the way that I differentiated as I picked something else to do, I still don’t, I don’t catch myself making music, just for fun very often anymore. It’s, it’s, it’s kind of become my job. And I have fun at my job, I have more fun at my job now, because I have another creative outlet than I was before. You know, and so it’s, it’s one of those things where, like, I just literally picked something else to do. And that seemed, that seemed to do for me. And, you know, now it’s because YouTube has gone where it has gone. And now it’s like a source of income for me as well. You know, you start to think of it as a job. But I think the big distinction between YouTube and what I was doing with music is that with music, there’s always a client. There’s always an artist in the room who says, Here’s my song, I want you to make it sound like this. No, no, I don’t like that. Do this. No, no, I don’t like that do this kind of thing. And so then I’m kind of always like answering to somebody. Whereas with my YouTube videos, with the exception of like, a couple of like sponsored segments and stuff like that, which really, like, I’ve never had, I’ve never had any sponsor tell me that I needed to make a different video, they might ask me to change some wording on how I talk about their brand or something like that. But for the most part, I get to make videos that I want to make, you know, so there’s, there’s nobody really to answer to, in that regard. It’s it’s mostly like I think of I have a list of videos that I want to make. And if a sponsor approaches me that would I guess, technically be my like, client is like, if a sponsor approaches me, I say, Okay, do you want me to put your thing on this video that I was probably going to make anyway, like, it’s always really, it’s really, like, I’ve become the artist that I work with in the studio, you know, their, their goal is as a musician, as a as an artist is to create a song and have enough people want to listen to it, that they can make a living at it. As a as a YouTuber, I basically say, Okay, I’m going to create a piece of information or art or whatever you want to call it. And hopefully enough, people want to watch all of my pieces of art, or information that I can then like, you know, make some kind of a, an income off of it. So it there’s there does feel like a significant difference between my day job and my side job, which is the YouTube thing, because again, it comes down to that control. Like, I never have to ask anybody like, Hey, is it okay? If I, if I make this video this week, you know, it’s like, I just make whatever I want. And some of them do great and some of them don’t do as well and you move on and you make another one.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  9:42  
And that is awesome. Like, I mean, like I could relate it back to like when I was an engineer, you know, like, as an engineer, you do get a little bit creative when you do problem solving. But at a certain point, you know, your boss just tell you, No, you just follow the process. Do you follow a, b and c and then you stop being creative? And I can totally relate to that. And I think that last bit that you say that you get to do things for yourself, you know, like, you get to choose the client that’s aligned to you. Right? That is probably the big thing that, that, I hope the listeners get it because especially with photography as well, you know, like, when I first when I first started photography, hours, not shooting for myself, I was recreating images from Instagram, instead of shooting the photo that I want to do. I want to take and you know, for that reason, I was just everyone else. And you know, nowadays, there’s a lot of photographers who kind of just start it. And they kind of follow or fall into the same trap. And then they ask themselves, how do I create photo that is, you know, stand out? Well, don’t follow anyone else. Create your own perspective. So that’s amazing that you say that. So? Yeah, awesome. So how does how does everything mesh together between like photography, and videography and music? Because you do it all? Like, you know, like, I don’t know how you find the time for it?

Dunna Did It  11:15  
Yeah, it’s, it’s a lot. I have a schedule blocker. So like, my, my Google Calendar has little blocks in it. And I have to schedule everything out, basically. And, yeah, it’s, it’s a lot. And yeah, it’s a it’s a constant struggle and some weeks, because like, it’s, it fluctuates so much, like, some weeks, it’ll be really busy on one end, and some weeks will be really busy on the other, and you have to be willing to kind of give up a little of one for another and that kind of thing. So it is is a lot to deal with. But it’s also it’s also a lot of fun. And, you know, you just, you just figure out what your what your balance needs to look like and what needs to be sacrificed and what, what doesn’t. And I’m also like a, I think I’m a really hard worker, so it helps that I want to do it, and I want to I feel I feel best when I feel accomplished. So if if you know, I’m working hard and getting lots done, that’s when I’m happiest. So it’s, it kind of works out for me. Yeah. And then like I’m also really strict on like, I take I take time, on my weekends, I spend those with my wife and that kind of stuff. And every once in a while, I’ll need to take a little bit of that time. And, you know, put it towards a busy week or something like that. But for the most part, it’s like, I try and kind of keep that balance. And that keeps me keeps me sane.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  12:45  
Yeah, that’s, that’s I mean, it’s, you know, I, I find it really hard. That’s one thing that I struggled the most is trying to find a balance. Like, so like, take us through, like, for example, when you were in like Lake Louise, how much how, like, how do you take photo and video at the same time? Because you only got two heads, right? Like, what does it look like when you’re out there? Do you just like do one or the other? Or? Yeah,

Dunna Did It  13:14  
yeah, I mean that it comes down to a lot of a lot of pre planning and kind of deciding what what is the main focus of today. And usually there’s usually there’s one or the other kind of thing. So like, I don’t even remember when we’re in Lake Louise. Oh, yeah. So I had one thing that I needed to shoot there, which was supposed to be I was supposed to be doing this trip this trip to Italy. With that, like people could sign up for and I was going to do some workshops and it was going to be a bunch of people and stuff like that. So I had like one promo video that I was like, okay, cool. While we’re there, I’ll shoot a little bit of video and but the main focus is get that and then everything else I was like everything else. I’m just going to focus on photography because I didn’t need if I don’t need video for anything. I don’t just like shoot video for no reason whatsoever, or very, very rarely anyway, like every every once in a while I’ll just shoot it just in case but but usually I’ll kind of have an idea going into it of like, you know what, what do I need out of this and so for that, that specific weekend or whatever, it was a couple of days that we were there. I knew I needed that one video, but I needed to like be at a location so we like did this little hike and ended up I don’t even remember where it was that we hiked to or whatever but that was gonna be the thing. I did my little blurb that was all the video that I really needed everything else the rest of the way was pretty much just just photos. And so then like and sometimes it’ll be the other way around. Sometimes it’ll be you know, what I really need out of this is a bunch of a bunch of video to put over a voiceover because I want to do this. This motive additional video or something like that, or I need to test this lens in video mode. And so like we’re gonna, I’m gonna, you know, take all this video, and then any photos that I get are kind of secondary. So it’s usually one or the other is takes priority, and I try and decide that ahead of time. And that makes it a lot easier. And usually I just shoot it all with one camera like I don’t I, I carry a backup camera, because I am worried that something will happen, and I’ll need it. But generally, I just shoot it all on one camera, and I just like constantly switch between modes for whatever I want to get some Yeah, so it’s it’s mostly about trying to decide ahead of time, like what do I need out of this outing kind of thing. So yeah,

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  15:48  
that’s, that’s awesome. I mean, I wish I you know, I’ve talked to you about this before, because when I was doing a trip around Indonesia and Australia, I had a drone. And

it was always like, drone, camera, photo, time lapse, and it just got like, oh, which I was like, Oh, I forgot to do this. But yeah, you’re right. I think if you can, like plan and just have that pre mindset of what you you want to achieve, that would work a lot better. And I mean, like, seems like you really organised about all this, like you always like this, or did you like learn it kind of along the way,

Dunna Did It  16:24  
this took a long time to develop? Yeah, there were a lot of times where where I would, let’s say we would go down to Banff or something like that. And, and I would try, I would be trying to like, okay, everywhere that we stopped, I would get two shots of B roll. And I would talk to the camera once and then I would stop and take 10 photos of that thing. And then like we take 25 steps up the hike up the trail, and I wouldn’t do it all again. And it first of all, it got really annoying because it was you know, what would should be like a 45 minute little walk or something like that would take us five hours. And second of all, what would happen is I would miss opportunity or not not so much that I would miss opportunities. But I would be I would have half a video. And I would have not quite enough photos to make a set. And because I was too busy doing one to get the other and too busy doing the other to get the one you know and so then like I didn’t have enough video to get to make something out of it. And I didn’t have enough photos, photos are a little easier because you can you can shoot like 10 photos and still get something if you’re if you know you’re you’re pretty handy with your eye and stuff. But yeah, it’s generally I’ll figure out if there’s an opportunity for now anyway, this is something that I’ve learned, I’ll figure out if there’s an opportunity for a video. And if not, I’ll probably just shoot photos. And that’s that’s generally kind of how it goes. Because if if there’s not like somewhere that I can post a video or something that I can do video for then like, generally, it would just take up a bunch of hard drive space and be video that I’d never use. I don’t sell stock footage or anything like that. So yeah, but I’m pretty much always always shooting some kind of photos one way or another. Even if I am shooting videos, I’ll usually shoot a couple of photos here and there too. So,

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  18:26  
man, I’ve got so many drone footage from that trip. It just it takes so much space and I hardly touch him I only touch him when I really need it like something you know, when I need to create promotion and stuff. And I always tell myself that, you know, one day I will go back to it and do it. But you know, making a video is a lot more effort than just making like editing a photo. It’s crazy. So I haven’t really got into it. So yeah, I know. You mean and the Alec for for wiki hunters at home was listening, I think this is really really valuable. You know whether or not you only do it for as a hobby or when you just do it for site income or even you want to do it full time. It’s it’s definitely one of the hardest thing to do as a creative, especially in this technology. Era, right. So do you have like, Do you have any inspiration that get you you know, going or get you to where you are right now? Is there a particular person or a particular photo that that you know, you remember when you started or whatnot?

Dunna Did It  19:39  
Oh geez. I mean when I first when I first started on on YouTube, the Casey Neistat was was a huge one for the like vlogging side of things and kind of the crossover between vlogging and like really nice high quality, storytelling kind of thing like it was it was different than like people just on their phones he was using like the Canon 80 D or whatever. And like it, there was shallow depth of field and all that kind of stuff. And so I think that, that, that was what got me interested in more of the not just telling a story, but also doing it with a certain kind of quality and a certain kind of flair and vibe to it. So that was, that was a big one. And then yeah, honestly, as far as photography goes, I mean, I have lots of people that are like now but I can’t think of anything like, off the top that was like, a huge, like, inspiration for me, I’m on an Instagram photographer 100% Like I don’t, my photos don’t really go anywhere other than Instagram. So like, I’m scrolling Instagram lots and you know, seeing what the trends are, and that kind of stuff. And but my, my biggest inspiration is learning new techniques, I think. So like, as if you were to scroll through my scroll through my Instagram, I’m sure you could probably even see it. It’s like, oh, he’s in he’s in this phase right now, he learned this one thing, and now he’s overdoing it like crazy. You know, like, he learned this, he learned about whatever, like long, long exposures or something and then or there’ll be like, nine long exposures in a row on my on my feed, like, two years ago or something like that. And then, you know, those kinds of things. So it’s like, it’s really like the My biggest inspiration is the hunt for new knowledge and the hunt for, you know, learning and that kind of thing. So I think that that’s really, really what drives me, especially I think, in the in the photography space. Whereas like, in for the YouTube side of things, when I’m shooting most of my videos, it’s almost passing on that knowledge is a lot of it. So yeah,

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  21:56  
that’s, that’s really interesting, because that’s how I learned, you know, I was too lazy to read or you know, to watch 10 Minutes video. So usually, I would, I would know exactly what I need to learn. And I would just watch that tiny bit of it. I would try it. And it’s like, no, I need to watch the next video. Yeah, it was it was really funny. I had to go back and forth, though. But it’s when when I first started photography, it was because of the Milky Way shot. It was just, I can’t I can’t remember which one it was, but there was a Milky Way shot that I saw. And I was like, I want to be able to take that photo. And then like, that was it that was like that was the mission. Like, that’s how I got into photography. That was that one shot. So yeah, it’s, it’s always interesting. So if you were to, like, choose between photography, videography and, and, you know, music, where would where we’d all sit? And how will all sit?

Dunna Did It  22:59  
If I had to pick one of them, as I say,

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  23:01  
Well, how you prioritise? You know, if you go like, when would you prefer one compared to the other? Because I’m sure everything has their own time, right, like, you enjoy things differently at different time or whatnot.

Dunna Did It  23:14  
Yeah, I mean, I think as, as far as just like creating some kind of like, art or whatever, like, I find photography really rewarding in that way. Like I feel like I make, so my video work primarily is my YouTube videos. So it’s not, it’s I don’t do I don’t really shoot a lot of like client work or anything like that. Like, it’s primarily just YouTube videos. Every once in a while I’ll shoot a music video here and there. But the photography is really like the one thing that I just do, because I like posting it kind of thing. You know, like the YouTube videos, like of course, I enjoy those too. But there’s kind of like a, there’s like a transaction there happening with my audience. Like, it’s like they’re expecting a video, I put out a video, we have a conversation about it, that kind of thing. Whereas, like, I take tonnes of photos that never get posted, or anything and it’s like, it’s I enjoy that process a lot. There’s very little for the way that I do it anyway, there’s very little planning that goes into shooting a photo, you know, like I, most of my photography and stuff happens while I’m out. And I’m just capturing what’s happening around me. I don’t plan on on, you know, a set or a costume or you know, like like some like portrait photographers and and that kind of stuff or concept photographers or whatever. So I quite enjoy that because it kind of feels like a almost like a state of meditations. So maybe that would be that might be at the top which is seems like a funny thing for me to say Because I do consider myself like a videographer. Before a photographer, just, I think out of the sheer fact that I shoot more videos. I shoot a video every week. I don’t necessarily get out and shoot photos every week. And so then it seems weird to say that but yeah, I guess that would be, that would be the top and then I don’t know, it’s tough. It’s tough not to put music at the top because I’ve been doing it for so long. Like since 2005. I went to, I went to recording school in in 2005. I have three college diplomas in music related fields, I was nominated for a Juno for a record that I produced a couple of years ago, like, so like, it’s, it’s a huge, huge part of my life. But just again, like, it’s like, it feels more like, it feels more like the nine to five right now. Like, I get to be creative in it. And I do enjoy it, but it’s not. It’s not the thing that like, is is driving me forward right at this very moment kind of thing. So, yeah, that’s yeah, I don’t know, if I actually answered your question or just hold on for a while. That’s actually

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  26:06  
perfect. It’s like, it’s like, it’s like a drip, you know, you kind of like half the music seems like, you’re more like work and obligation and a little bit of happiness and passion and creative side, I suppose. And the video is like in the middle, and then photography is kind of just like fully recreational, and you just do whatever you want with it. So

Dunna Did It  26:33  
yeah, it just is funny because even just the way that you just laid it out there, like for audio and music, and then video feel very connected to me, they feel like almost almost like the same thing. But then with a with a visual aspect. And then on the other side photography and video kind of feel like they’re connected. But just you know, the video is just with an audio aspect. And so it’s like video really does feel like the, the mash of between the two, you know, it’s like, it’s like, photography is like capturing a moment. Audio is like capturing a moment over time, but only in the audio part of it. And then the video kind of combines it all. All together. So yeah, it really does kind of like have this flow thing going on. And from week to week, it changes to is like some weeks, I’m just super inspired to make music. And then other weeks, I just all I want to do is make cool videos. And then the next week, all I want to do is, you know, shoot photos. Yeah. So it, it’s kind of all over the place. Yeah, that’s, that’s

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  27:37  
awesome. I think I think the way you put it is really is spot on. I mean, I I, I kind of predominantly take photo, and then I take a little bit of video. And now because like I don’t have a lot of drones and stuff like that. And I’m not very good with the handheld camera thing, because I don’t have a gimbal or anything like that. And so I do a lot a lot of time lapse, which is kind of like, you know, like just a bunch of photo put together and makes a video. So that’s Yeah, that’s really interesting. And that’s awesome. So like, I mean, like, you know, we’re, we’re, I think we’re going back. So coming back to the end of the podcast here. So what if you were to kind of give a little bit of advice to someone who, who, who just started and I think someone who’s interested on both, you know, videography and photography, and because I know a lot of a lot of creatives out there really love it, but they just kind of don’t know where to start. And they are overwhelmed with things like trying to learn too many things. What what, what sort of advice would you tell them? And you know, how should How should they approach them?

Dunna Did It  28:55  
I mean, I would say to learn basic stuff first. And the nice thing about photography and videography is that a lot of those basics are the same, they might have different guidelines, but learning things like the exposure triangle, and how to use your shutter speed ISO and aperture in tandem with each other are the rules or the I shouldn’t say the rules, but the the guidelines are the same. Or the information anyway is the same. And then the guidelines for a photography versus videography might just be slightly different. And so I think that really like if you’re not sure yet you’re like, Okay, well I like both of them. But like I don’t know, if I want to make I might not have time to do both or like it’s frustrating trying to do both. Like, you can learn the basics of both of them at the same time and you’re not really learning two things. You’re really only learning one thing so I think really really building up your foundational All knowledge is is kind of a great place to start and not and not worry too much about like, above getting into advanced techniques, we all want to jump into that kind of stuff but but if you really learn your kind of foundational stuff, honestly, it makes it easier to even figure out those kind of more, you know, advanced things if you if you have all the foundations down, and then you see a photo that has something cool going on in it, you will look at it and go, Oh, I know how they did that. Because I understand these foundational ideas, and I’m sure this could apply to anything. I’m sure this isn’t just photography and videography. But I definitely find it that way. So yeah, like learning learning kind of your foundational stuff, I think is is really a strong place to start. And whether that means you know, looking up YouTube videos, or taking online courses, or reading books or whatever the best way that you specifically learn. But don’t, don’t hop over those foundational things, which I think a lot of people want to do they want to, they want to learn how to take the Milky Way shot, as their as their first photo, they want to be able to go out in the middle of the night and hit the Milky Way shot without understanding what a long exposure is without understanding how it works and understanding noise and ISO and all those kinds of things or what equipment they need that kind of thing. So I think really, really getting a grasp on that foundational stuff is the way that the way that I learned. And luckily, there’s a lot of overlap between audio, the the post production side of audio and video. So a lot of that came really easily to me. But as far as like getting good images and stuff like that I was basically starting from scratch. So I think that learning that foundational stuff is really really where I would say like focus a lot of your time on that. And the rest of it kind of falls into place. You’ll accidentally stumble a lot of along a lot of fun things that will take you a lot of places if you get that other stuff down first.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  32:09  
Yeah, that’s that’s really funny, because you just talked to me about three years ago. It’s like, yeah, straightaway. Myka is like, No, I don’t know how to do

Dunna Did It  32:18  
that. I did it too. I did it. I think we all do. Yeah. So this is me warning people who are just heard just starting out, they need to, they need to do some other stuff first.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  32:30  
Yeah, that’s cool. Right. So like, I want to ask you one last thing, and I think you’re a perfect person to ask is, you know, you in the YouTube field feel you’re you’re, you’re competing with many, many other people. And the thing is that you need to stand out, right? And that’s the thing that a lot of photographers is asking, right? How do you create something that stand out? How do you create something that is unique? That is that is noticeable, and different from everyone else? So yeah. Do you have any advice on you know how to set yourself differently? And the, the, you know, different?

Dunna Did It  33:15  
Yeah, that’s I mean, it’s, it’s a difficult one, especially as more and more people pick up cameras are more and more people start YouTube channels, or whatever. But I mean, the the, it kind of comes back to what I was saying before is like, if you learn the foundational stuff, then you can put your own spin on it, if you don’t learn that stuff. And all you learn is how to copy other people. You know, let’s say you learn how to make a certain type take a certain type of photo, because you watched a tutorial where somebody walked you through it step by step kind of thing. And all you know is how to do that you don’t really know how you got there, or why it worked or any of that you just know how to take that photo, then all you’re going to be able to do is, is copy that person and you’re in you’re not going to stand out. Whereas if you if you really focus on those foundational things, you can then it’s almost like a recipe if you understand how to use all of the ingredients, you can then put your own different amounts and and different flavours on it and you can you can make your own recipe out of it. Whereas if all you know how to do is follow somebody else’s recipe then you’re not going to stand out. But if you don’t, again, if you don’t understand those flavours you don’t understand the spices, that kind of stuff, then you’ll never be able to get to your own recipe. So I think again, it really comes down to understanding your foundational knowledge about this kind of stuff and then and then again like it I do I do always tell people to copy other people and not Not not because not not as like, necessarily your, your swan song or whatever. But because there’s so much learning to be done from borrowing from other people and give give credit, if you if you’re going to blatantly like copy someone as a learning experience, give credit to that person and that kind of thing. Don’t pretend like you invented it. But at the same time, like you can learn a lot from that. And eventually what’s going to happen is you’re going to, let’s say you copy 15 Different people over and over and over again, and you’re learning and you’re learning and learning, eventually, what what’s going to happen is you’re going to develop your own style based on all of the things that you learned from all those other people. So it’s the biggest thing, I guess, is just time, right off the bat, probably in your first bunch of years, you’re not going to you’re just going to look like whatever you’re learning at the time. And eventually, you’re you’re going to develop your own style out of it. And, and the only way to do that is to give it time.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  36:06  
And that’s, that’s amazing answer right there. I think you’re you’re right on it. You know, the, the two recipes, by I think a lot of us, especially when you just start it, it’s normal to follow other people because like, we don’t know what we want, we don’t know what’s good, what’s bad, until we can experience it all. So yeah, I think you’re right. But like, being able to understand that foundation, then it will help other like you to kind of break down what you’re doing so that you could reconstruct it slightly different or you know, like, like you say, you might be able to take 15 And then you create your own thing. So yeah, that’s yeah, that’s that’s really awesome advice there. So yeah, like, man, it’s been it’s been a good like 40 minutes and which we can talk all day and I’m sure the listener would love is so much wisdom right there. But like, I don’t know if I even should I should this but it for those of you who want to find you Where should they find you? And

Dunna Did It  37:14  
he can find me at Donna did or on YouTube, Instagram or Twitter. All of them are backslash. Done it did it so And did it Did it Did it. Come say hi, I am still pretty good about answering all my comments and DMS. So hit me up and let’s chat.

Stanley Aryanto – The Wicked Hunt  37:36  
Yeah, that’s, I mean, I’m sure if you just put it on Google done. I did it. I’m sure. I’m doing good enough there. Yeah. So I was like, I don’t know if I should ask you this. But like, thanks a lot for sparing your time. And, you know, I’m sure you have a busy schedule. So it’s, you know, you’ve given us a lot of valuable not only lesson but also inspiration, you know, to, to work to get to where you are right now and you know, the fact that you have to put it out there and just keep at it until you you get there. I think that is a massive inspiration. Especially for I think for creatives like us, you know, it’s really hard sometimes to to make it out there. So, yeah, kudos to you and congratulation man. Like, yeah, we hear you made so much progress. Cool. Thanks, man. Yeah, so, well, we get Hans’s hopefully that is, you know, you find not only one or two but a whole 40 minutes of wisdom right there. And yeah, think about that, like, you know, apply that to your, to your creative side, whatever it may be, but it is it’s very important. Like he say, I think the one thing that I would really want to stress is that being able to separate between what you have to do and what you want to do and just keep creating for yourself, you know, even though sometimes you might need to get that post that you like and or you know, get that video that people will engage in alike, but never forget to create for yourself. Well, thanks a lot for tuning in. We can hunters and I’ll see you guys next week.


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